Does anyone know how long it takes after completing a testosterone cycle to lose a good percentage of the gains made while on test.
I would appricate any feedback
It depends on a bunch of stuff... post-cycle therapy, what you eat, how you train.
Do it smartly, you'll keep the majority of the increased musculature.
I'll go play w/ your sister while you continue to wonder whether you are doing everything right to maintain your gains...how about that. Next time you ask a question, why not include the necessary information for someone to give you a 'non-smart ****' answer? Its not my fault you didn't do your research before you jabbed yourself w/ the needle you ignorant fu*k.
If you would like me to give you an honest answer, provide me w/ the necessary information... Stats (age, weight) Cycle (how many mg/wk of the test cyp? Any other juice stacked? how many weeks?) Gains (how many lbs gained during cycle?...did you bloat much?) Anti-e? (which one...liquidex/armidex/nolvadex/letrozole ?) Post cycle therapy? (clomid/nolvadex/HCG?)
OK, from earlier posts, I saw that you were running 2cc's a week of test cyp. Well, Mr SK, Mr All-knowing guru who dislikes smart-**** answers...do you know what the concentration of your test cyp was? Let me lay that out for to make it easier...how many mg/ml (milligrams/milliliter) is your test?
If I said I was injecting 3cc's/wk of test prop, can you tell me how many mg of prop a I am getting? No, I could be getting anywhere from 150mg to 750mg per week...
I really can't believe you did a cycle knowing as little as you do. You are the type of person that gives supplements a bad name.
Ok, so are you saying that your cycle is over? When was your last shot? You should get your hands on some clomid or nolvadex to run for post cycle. Might not be necessary, but increases the chances of you holding your gains.
20lbs...good job! How was your diet while on? I'm assuming this was a bulking cycle, so you were prolly getting 3500-4000cals. Were they clean cals? You'll find out once you shed the water weight. I'd say you should hold on to at least 15lbs if you run some post cycle recovery...
First of all, there is ALWAYS a chance for gyno and natural test shutdown. Never assume otherwise!!! Always have proper ancillaries to combat gyno on hand (BEFORE the cycle starts).
At 200mg/wk (which is a fairly low dose), I'd say you really shouldn't be too worried about natural test recovery. The nolvadex or clomid, will suppress the estrogen levels in your body while your natural test is trying to start back up.
Here's the situation that you're body is about to experience...Once your last shot wears off, your test levels are going to be VERY low...Without keeping your estrogen levels in check (w/ nolv or clomid or some other anti-e), your looking at an increased risk of developing gyno, and your body will be in a catabolic state (hence muscle loss). It is very possible to see gyno pop up POST cycle...even if there were no signs while ON.
I'd say better to be safe than sorry...run clomid 21 days after last injection...300mg clomid first day, 100mg next 6 days, then only 50mg for the following 2 weeks...you should be pretty good after that. You can run nolvadex instead, just follow the same plan...(20mg nolv = 50mg clomid)...so...120mg nolv the first day, 40mg ...blah blah blah
ow ****....sucks doesnt it? you need some sort of pct when you finish yo cycle or you going back to square one, plus with the small balls...try HCG & nolva
hey bro ......do yourself a favor and run the clomid up to 40-45 days after your last shot of cypionate.............
you should start the Clomid 3 weeks after last shot....(some say 2) but the half life of cypionate will cause test levels to still be elevated over 2 weeks after last shot..(due to all the half life's from previous shot's slowly tapering off)
ALSO WHILE YOUR TEST IS LOW ( 3-10 weeks after last shot) TAKE some type of DOPAMINE ....supplement........You will thank me.......it will help you raise your MOOD and Sex drive.... also high dopamine supports higher testosterone ...dopamine is the driver of the male brain.....something like Mucuna Pruriens.....will do the trick also NADH or L-tyrosine but Mucuna is the best.....unless of course you don't care about your sex drive
im jus starting out and i have bought 40ml of test cyp i was just wonderin how many times do i shoot it a week and how much?
22 years old
what would be the proper first dosage for testosterone cypionate
for first timers 400mg per week should be quite fine dude. worked wonders for me...but you need proper PCT...your hcg and nolvadex, or else you'll waste everything
that dosage is so small it really doesnt matter!!!!
the guys's a beginner. 400mg should be quite enough for decent gains.
here's a decent cycle for a beginner
week 1 -> 200mg test cyp
week 2 - 5 -> 400mg - 500mg test cyp
week 4 - 7 -> 10mg/day nolvadex
week 7 -8 -> 5000iu per week HCG
hey im comeing towards the end of my first cycle and ive never been told to take that after i have finished. do you think i should? and what will happen if i dont?
@ Lindy and Dagger You guys, as "Junior Boarders" are really jacka--es. Everybody has to start somewhere, and that young fella asked a legitimate question. You've GOT to forgive him for not being as knowledgable and worldly as you guys. As someone new to this board, but absolutely NOT new to this game, I would say that YOU fellas completely succeeded in making total clowns of yourselves by TRYING to make that other young fella seem small.
everyone else here seems to have done their homework. these are serious chemicals you are putting in your body. 40ml? that's quite a bit of test c. is that 250mgs/ml? my first was test p 500mgs a week with 30mgs a day of dbol for 4 weeks. pct was clomid and hcg. remember everyone will react differently. id also have some nolva on hand just in case of gyno. id run what you have 500mgs a week for at least 10 weeks with nolva every day to prevent build up of estrogen. if you're really impatient get yourself some dbol and run 25-40mgs a day for the first 4 weeks.
Well said, and that was almost identical to my first cycle. I had quite decent results over the ten week period, gaining 12 pounds and REALLY impressive strength gains. Absolutely NO reason for anyone who's new to this game to go any higher than that for a first cycle, and in fact, most fellas in that situation will have good gains with no dbol and less test providing diet is right, workouts are intense and rest is sufficient.
How much gains will i get off 10ml cyp and 200dbols?
A good question Ormsby. There are however a BUNCH of variables...is this your first cycle? (I'm assuming so). Next is are you currently and have you been in training for awhile? If so how intensely? How is your diet, ie is your protein intake level at least a gram per day per pound of body weight? Do you get a minimum of 8-10 hours of sleep every night? (That one is VERY important) Lastly, I must tell you that even with the dbol kicker, you really need another vial of test (and I'm just assuming it's cyp or enthanate) to do a decent first cycle. As a first cycler, you'll probably want to do 8-10 weeks of test @ 400 mg per week, and 20-30 mg of dbol every day for about the first 4 weeks. Let us know bro' and we'll be more than glad to help you make the most of it! Thanks for posting and looking forward to hearing from you!
were to get nolvadex online!
hi am nw to this. i am going to be takeing cyp what do i have with it am about 15st good bilt
Hey Im 26, 86kilo.. Just finished my test 400 ten week course at 1ml per week.. I've just got clomid and have been told by my dealer to take 1pill 50mg per day for two weeks. That sound right to you lads.. Just been reading your crack and Im abit gutted that i will lose Alot of gain as i wasn't wanting to take more gear. I
Speaking of ignorance, hows bout your self other than the obvious facts that well everybody seems to comprehend, your over all steroidal frustration that you seem to have in your response seems to directly effect your communication skills. but please carry on im sure that im not the only reader who finds the humor in it well worth reading.... haha btw when you say non smart answer do you mean unintelligent, insufficient, inadequate ect, or do you mean more smart because if so nu uh bc im more smarter than you dummyhead!!!!!! **** chump
All these idiots that say u neeed pct, i ran t400 for 6 months first cycle stacked with dbol for first 5wks then anavar 6wks towards end and never ran an ai or pct or hcg, how do you know yous need all this stuff if u haven't finished a cycle without it all lol what did the pros do bk in the day before all these breast cancer drugs and other **** was about ???
Since you asked lol been on cyp250 for 12wks at 500mg/wk. 6'1 36yo weight was 173 when i started current weight is 194..didnt bloat very much just my face a little. Didnt stack with anything other than whey and no2 caps. Hope this was enough info..im not the guy who asked originally but im really curious
Was just reading and trying to get info but some of these people are a bunch of ****. If they have so much knowledge why not try to help someone else out with out all the smart **** answers.
Wat a mouthy bellend you are you fkn ****
wow no rage here guy