Protein shakes: How Often?

cross posted to misc.fitness.weights

Cites, please. I'd love to see the research citing that a mostly-protein and zero-to-practically no carb drink is optimal post-workout nutrition..

But you just said that 'you have found through research from medical, bodybuilding, and other sources' So cite them please.

So you're making it all up? I thought so.

Bullshit. You're making things up as you go along, and you know precious little about post workout nutrition.

I'm not saying one HAS to have carbs after a workout. You can lose weight just fine. But if you're reading information that states that zero-to-low carbs post workout is optimal for muscle repair and to create an anabolic environment, you would be wrong.

Anyone want to jump in, gang?

Cheers,

It cracks me up when top-posters complain of alleged netiquette abuses.

What gave you the impression that your permission was required?

Public posting of private e-mail without permission is considered rude. Usenet postings are a matter of public record, and cross-posting to relevant groups in mid-thread is a common and, contrary to the mystifyingly fervent convictions of certain ASDLC regulars, widely-accepted practice. Don't like it? Stick to e-mail.

'Brandon Berg'

I do not have a problem with cross posting when it is the whole thread, complete and not just selected messages which serve ONE person's purpose. This was just one post and it only served one person's purpose which was to try and illicit responses to words she had taken and twisted to her own end.

This is what I am objecting to. It is rude and uncalled for. Also under the topic, this is not relevant to the other group. Under a topic about post training nutrition maybe it well would have been. Under a topic to which I replied on topic about how often to use/consume protein shakes, it has nothing to do with the other group. It has to do only with this low-carb group as it is a low-carb diet question, not a body building question in this instance.

'allison aka psycho' . Nina asked

I did actually respond to a person who asked me where I got my info from. It was not Nina though, so if you were not reading the whole thread it may have gone past your notice.

I got my info from personal trainers, gym instructors, doctors, product information nights/meetings as well as general research. I actually even spoke to a man, who makes protein powders and dietary supplements, today. He himself also told me that what I said was right.

Mind you if you read carefully I did not personally say some things that Nina has responded to. I think she just read what she wanted to read and not what was really being said.

The purpose I'm trying to serve is to correct your information. You keep saying that you have 'medical research and cites' to back up your information. I'm still waiting.

We're talking about post-workout nutrition for weight training. The group is misc.fitness.weights.

It's not a tough call.

That's what the topic has been.

You said protein shakes with zero to low carb are excellent post workout for muscle building and recovery. I corrected you. You once again said that this type of drink was preferable post workou, and had the medicla data to back you up.

Now, of course,, you're backpedaling. Of course you are. 'Cause you're wrong.

And yet you answered a body-building question, without any sort of idea of what you're doing.

I don't answer questions on cholesterol, on diabetes. Why? 'Cause I don't know anything about them. If I'm not sure on a topic, I'll say so. No harm in being wrong. You were given multiple chances to correct your information.

Obviously, you're another dieter who would rather have people be nice to you than actually know what you're doing. It's terribly sad.

Cheers,

So it shouldn't be a problem to find your general research showing that zero to low carb post workout are optimal for muscle building and recovery. I mean, you've said it right above, you seem totally familiar with the subject. Throw a couple our way.

Oh, yes, the supplement companies tell you to use their product? Shocking.

You said you had medical cites. I'm still waiting to see them. You made the claim. You back it up. I already posted three articles and two pubmed abstracts (only on ASDLC) which I found with a whopping five minutes of research. Since you've been studying this for awhile, it should take you even less time.

Cheers,

Don't you love how people cry 'TROLL!' to cover up their inability to refute arguments?

'Well, I disagree with you, and you're a big Mean TROLL! So I'm RIGHT. So there.'

References, please.

And you forgot the sticking the fingers in the ears and squeezing the eyes shut and singing 'LA LA LA LA LA can't hear you!'

Cheers,

Most PT, gym instructors, and doctors know FA about exercise, diet, nutrition, etc. Most supplement companies know even less.

There's something called 'topic drift'. The topic of a discussion can evolve. The top of the thread was not topical here, but the post that Nina crossposted was. The right place to crosspost to a different forum would IMO be the part where the discussion becomes topical in that forum, wherever that may be, NOT necessarily the start of the thread.

Would it have helped if she'd changed the subject line ?

Post-workout supplementation has a lot to do with this group. I don't know what you're doing lecturing regulars in this group (like Nina) on what is and what isn't topical here. None of us have any complaints.

Your dismissal of Nina's credibility is hilarious