r-ala? Lyle, Elzi?

So what's up with this r-ala? Many people on elitefitness recommends it but I am skeptical about this promotion thing for their store. What do some of the smart guys and girls in here say? Is it worth the money when bulking. I thought it might be something for me because I tend to store fat easily - maybe some r-ala could direct the calories towards the muscles? Is the GLUT-4 transporter not present in the fat cells? If it is then r-ala would also direct glucose into the fat cells which we don't want it to or what?

Greetings Lau Saugman Hansen

No. CLA might be, however. ******************************************************* ************************

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But r-ala is too I think. I know CLA might prevent to much fat depositing but r-ala will too I believe...

Greetings Lau Saugman Hansen ******************************************************* ********************* ***

Only if you're a mouse or rat. Or take ~7X the recommended dose.

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Anyone know of some good studies on optimal CLA dose in humans? I seem to recall 4-6 grams did something for the obese... ******************************************************* ************************

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Yeah, in one study. And in others it did nothing. Dose and duration are the key and CLA works approximately 7X better in rat/mouse models than in humans. Apparently due to differences in metabolic rate. To get similar effects to the mouse studies, you'd have to take 7X as much or take it for 7X as long.

Considering the minimal effect overall, unless you're bleeding money from your ass, I think CLA is pretty low on the supplement heirarchy (1). If you're determined to piss money away, 3-6 g/day is what was used in the one study that showed positive effects (they acutally compared 0, 3 and 6 g/day and 6 g/day showed no greater effect than 3 g/day which is a little strange when you think about it).

Lyle 1. unless you're a rat or a mouse

Does it count if you have a long pointy nose and a bit of a tail??

Like a proboscis monkey?

That to my mind you really only need that supplement if you eat a lot of US beef and drink a great deal of US milk. Since it is only in beef and milk and is simply a component in fat that helps your body to deal with the 'other' portion of the fat you just ate in the beef and milk to help metabolise it (instead of storing it) then not everyone really needs to take it.

I rarely eat beef at all. I suspect that in nearly every other type of animal protein that you shove down your neck though that in it's fat stores there is a similar component that does the same thing. You don't see many big fat chickens or fat fish...lol! Pork is shocking for high fat content. Lamb follows close behind it.

I have always eaten more chicken and fish as it appears to be a good way to get protein without too much fat content and the fat content in fish seems healthier for some reason instinctively.

I usually eat fat..but generally it is added in cooking or into the salad, or I would take it like flax oil. Problem with eating fat off an animal is that you can never keep track of how much fat you ate or the number of calories that it amounted to. far better I often thought to know what you just took in spoonfuls and what it amounted to in calories.

So if animals are grain fed as opposed to put out to pasture and they are deficient in this